Coast to Coast Drone/Isaac/CARET

This will be the first of multiple blogs exploring the Coast to Coast Drone/Isaac/CARET enigma.

 

The Coast to Coast Drone/Isaac/CARET saga started on May 6^th, 2007.  “Chad” took 6 photos on his cell phone and posted them on coasttocoastam.com of a drone/craft in the area around Bakersfield, California.  The incident occurred on May 6 and he waited 4 days to post them.  The craft had 5 arms.  One arm was significantly longer than the others.  Chad said he was on a walk with his wife in April when he first noticed the craft.  His wife took pictures with her cell phone.  He and a neighbor went looking for it a few days later.  His friend took pictures from directly under the craft. 

 

He described the movement of the craft as silent and smooth.  It moved very slowly at first but was gone in the blink of an eye.  The craft emitted a crackling noise intermittently.  It sounded like the hum of power lines.  He compared it’s movements to those of insects on ponds.  He also described it rotating around and hurrying off.

 

Chad claimed to have discovered Coast to Coast AM through Google while searching for understanding. 

 

He complained of headaches and worrying about radiation due to the hum and his wife being pregnant.  He was concerned about the unborn baby. 

 

He claimed to see the craft often, at least 8 times.  He has seen it looking out the window of his home.  His neighbors also have seen it.  He claims to have seen it on half of the hikes he had taken recently. 

 

The next sighting took place May 5th in Lake Tahoe and was reported to MUFON on May 12th.  So, really this was one day before Chad’s sighting and reported two days later than Chad reported his.  The images were taken on a cell phone.  This craft looked different having only 4 arms, 2 of them longer.  This was another married couple that was visiting Lake Tahoe for the weekend.  They saw it at about 7 PM as the wife was retrieving a sweater from the car.  She yelled for the husband to come outside as he was still in their rented cabin.  They claimed it moved very “exact” and made a slight vibrating sound. 

 

The third sighting was by Rajinder Satyanarayana in Capitola, California.  6 pictures were originally posted on Craig’s List and then moved to Flikr.  The account was hacked, the pictures replaced with porn and the account was closed.  The sighting took place on May 16^th and the pictures were posted May 20^th.  The camera was a Konica Minolta DiMAGE X.  This craft had a third configuration of the arms, having four of them, 2 arms longer, plus 6 other smaller arms. 

 

Rajinder was in Capitola with his fiancé to announce their engagement to her parents.  They were eating dinner on the back porch when the sighting occurred.  All four observed it as did a car full of people.  The fiancé’s father was a mechanical engineer and had no explanation for the craft.  

 

He claimed to have sent a copy of the picture to the local newspaper.  He also speaks for the first time of the writing on the craft and of it not being recognizable.

 

Next, was a sighting on June 5^th in Big Basin, California by Stephen and Jenna L.  One of them was a free lance wedding photographer.  3 photos were posted at a private, unidentified photo listserv and then moved to UFOcasebook.com.  They used a Canon Rebel XT to take the pictures.  This was a fourth configuration of the craft’s arms observed, having 5 arms one longer than the rest and many other additions. 

 

Stephen took the pictures and posted them. Jenna was a member of the listserv and recognized the craft due to an About.com article.  The listserv was a tight knit group that knew each other. They claimed no need for anonymity. 

 

Stephen explained his photography assignment was to take pictures of something of a small scale against a background of a large scale.  While he was photographing flowers against the backdrop of the valley the craft just appeared out of nowhere in his viewfinder.  The craft moved slow and jerky.  When it left, it just vanished.

 

The fifth sighting was by Ty, also on June 5^th, and also in Big Basin.  He posted them at earthfiles.com on June 16^th.  Ty got 12 pictures of the thing.  The original e-mail he sent to Linda Moulton Howe was on the 11^th.  A package, including photos was also mailed to her on the 11^th.  Howe is who coined the term “dragonfly-shaped aerial drone” which the craft is sometimes referred to as. 

 

Ty was with a group of 8 people mountain biking near Saratoga in Big Basin when the group observed the drone 4 times.  The object was the same one that Stephen had seen.  The object was rotating.  The sighting took place in the early afternoon and lasted about one minute.  Ty referred to it as “the mothership”.  Ty stated he was a long time Coast to Coast fan. 

 

They were 20 minutes down the trail when they saw the craft appear out of nowhere approximately 2 miles away.  The craft rotated slowly, changing direction back and forth.  It then just disappeared.  The group remained “frozen” after the incident.  No pictures were taken the first time it was seen.  The second sighting occurred over the course of a few seconds and no pictures were taken then either.  The craft was stationary.  It made a low vibration and high clicking noise.  The third time it appeared for about a minute and pictures were taken, the fourth time no pictures were taken as it only appeared for a second. 

 

One of the riders with Ty worked for a bay area newspaper and was familiar with the craft.  He had heard reports of it a year ago (2006) and was told to ignore the story. 

 

So, between the end of April and June 5^th, 2007 there were five sightings of four different craft or the same craft in four different configurations.  All the incidents occurred in Central California or nearby.  All the incidents described the movement of the craft as slow, jerky and then it would just vanish.  All described a buzzing or vibrating sound associated with it.  All also got pictures.  Two sightings were the same day and in the same location.  In the end one witness claimed to have knowledge that the story would be held under wraps by the media.  Would the media cover up such a story? 

Zombie Ants
Mood:  on fire

Zombie Ants

Looks like researchers in Texas are more scared of some damage to electrical equipment than hordes of living dead insects! Scary!

Living Dead Ants

Stock up on food and water! Load your guns! Bust out the Raid! The end is coming!!!

I Googled "Zombie Ants". I found a video of them on You Tube.

Zombie Ants Video

This is called biotic pollution. It is the introduction of alien species into an ecosystem.

"In many regions, these new colonists are running wild, disrupting the dynamics of ecosystems, pushing native species towards extinction, and causing billions of dollars of direct damage to human enterprises." Quoted from "Alien Species in North America and Hawaii" by George W. Cox.

Alien Species in North America

In Northwest Montana they worry about this all the time with zebra mussels.

Flathead Lakers and zebra mussels

It's a shame that a government funded organization (Texas A&M) would encourage this sort of thing. Somebody's tax dollars went into this.

They've already released 4 species of the fly to try and control ant population.  This could have dire consequences. The mongoose in Hawaii and Puerto Rico is a perfect example.   Mongooses were brought in to control the rat problem.  Now mongooses do $50 million dollars a year in damages just in Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

This isn't the first time that insects have been turned into zombies according to science.slashdot.org.

"Zombie insects might sound like a B-movie plot device (quicktime video) but to the emerald cockroach wasp (Ampulex compressa), they're a tried and tested way to provide food for their hungry larvae. The wasp relies on cockroaches for its grisly life cycle but unlike many venomous predators, which paralyze their victims before eating them, the wasp's sting leaves the cockroach able to walk, but unable to initiate its own movement. Researchers have discovered that the wasps sting the cockroaches once to subdue them, then administer another, more precise sting right into their victim's brain. The venom works to block a neurotransmitter called octopamine with a similar action to dopamine, which is involved in preparations to execute complex behaviors such as walking. Then the wasp grabs the cockroach's antenna and leads it back to the nest 'like a dog on a leash', says one researcher. The team found that they could restore spontaneous walking behavior in stung cockroaches by giving them a compound that reactivates octopamine receptors in the insects' central nervous system. Researchers were also able to create their own zombies by injecting unstung cockroaches with a compound that blocks the receptors producing a similar effect to that of the venom."

With two known incidents of scientists turning living creatures into zombies how long is it before they try it with people you might ask?  There's the story of the St. Thomas zombie, which shows that zombies are real, and alot of people think that the chupacabra is an animal that was experimented on and escaped from a government facility, which shows that people are sick-os.  They would love having a weapon like that.  Drop a bomb with a zombie causing disease on the enemies front lines, all the frontline soldiers turn to zombies and start attacking their own.  Besides the whole idea of zombies is based on REAL voodoo caused zombies.  Go watch "The Serpant and the Rainbow."  Like I said at the beginning, the end is coming!

 

Roswell

In July of 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico there was an incident where something crashed in the desert.  There is no argument that something crashed.  It was found by Mac Brazel and his 7 year old neighbor Dee Proctor on the Foster Ranch.  What it was is still debated.  Many believe that the US government covered up the retrieval of a UFO.  Some even believe it was a collision of not one, but two UFOs.

On July 2, 1947 Mr. and Mrs. Dan Wilmot see an oval object like two inverted saucers, mouth to mouth, fly over their home in Roswell.  this reported on the front page of the Roswell Daily Record. 

On July 3 Mac Brazel and Dee Proctor discover a debris field.  They take some of the debris to the Proctor home.  A second site is discovered when the fire and police departments investigate a reported crash.  Dan Dwyer was one of the fireman and has testified that such happened.  Sgt. Melvin Brown testified that he saw bodies loaded onto trucks.  

On July 4 Brazel takes the debris to Sheriff George Wilcox.  Naomi Self, a nurse, meets with a mortician, Glenn Dennis, and tells of aliens with grey skin, large heads, large black eyes and four fingers, even drawing him a picture on a napkin.  William Woody claims to see military cordoning off the ranch.  Marcel goes to the sheriff's office to investigate the debris and Brazel. Marcel, Brazel and Capt. Sheridan Cavitt go to the ranch.  Majr General Clements McMullen has Col. William Blanchard, Marcel's superior, seal the debris and transport it to Fort Worth, where Col. Dubose takes it to DC. 

On July 5 most of the recovery takes place.  Frank Joyce of a local radio station interviewed Brazel.

On July 8 security is tightened around the ranch and MPs are sent to get Brazel.  Blanchard gives out a press release stating the RAAF had recovered a flying disk.  Headlines read,  “RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region”.  A C-54 takes debris to Wright Field while a B-29 takes debris and Marcel to Fort Worth.  This is corroborated by Lt. Robert Shirkey, Pappy Hendersonand Master Sgt. Robert Porter.  General Ramey, Major EM Kirton, and Warrant Officer Irving Newton start the weather balloon cover up story.

On July 9 cleanup is wrapped up and 3 or 4 more C-54s fly debris to Kirtland and then Los Alamos.  Cpt. Robert Smith corroborate this.  Brazel is in custody and changes his story.  The next week he is seen driving a new truck.  

For years the witnesses were sworn to secrecy.  Stanton Friedman's efforts years later brought the story to light.  Friedman was a nuclear physicist that worked for GE and Westinghouse on fusion rockets and nuclear power plants for space applications.  He provided written testimony to Congress and appeared at the UN twice.  He once won a debate against a skeptic at Oxford. 

Twice the Air Force has tried to explain away Roswell.  In the early 90s they claimed that the debris was part of Project Mogul.  Mogul was a classified military project used to monitor Soviet nuclear tests.  Witness testimony did not match up.  The materials that were recovered were not the same materials that were used in Mogul.  In the late 90s the Air Force issued a report called "Roswell: Case Closed"  to address witness testimony of alien bodies being taken away from the crash site.  The report claimed that the bodies were dummies used in Project High Dive.  High Dive took place in the 50s, four years after the Roswell incident.  These two attempts to explain away Roswell are pitiful and whoever was in charge of releasing them should be assistant manager at a Wendy's.  

In 1994 the Air Force released "Last Word".  It claimed:

The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations.

Here is more detail on the Mogul Project:

Its classified purpose was to try to develop a way to monitor possible Soviet nuclear detonations with the use of low-frequency acoustic microphones placed at high altitudes. No other means of monitoring the nuclear activities of a closed country like the USSR was yet available, and the project was given a high priority. One of the NYU tasks was the development of constant-level balloons for placing the acoustic microphones aloft. After some preliminary flights in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, in April 1947, which failed due to high winds, the project moved to New Mexico.

The reflectors in Mogul were made from balsa wood and tinfoil.  Major Jesse Marcel was the intelligence officer for the 509th Bomb Group , the only group armed with nukes, based at Roswell Army Air Field.   After Brazel reported the debris field to the sheriff of Chaves County, Marcel investigated the site.  Marcel described it as such:

". . . about as far as you could see—three quarters [of a] mile long and two hundred to three hundred feet wide." It was "scattered all over—just like you’d explode something above the ground and [it would] just fall to the ground." The shortest pieces were "four or five inches. It was [as if it were from] something of some greater area that had been together."

An official press release stated that the Army had retrieved a crashed disc.  Flat out.  That's what they claimed.  Shortly after though they retracted the story and claimed it was just a weather balloon.  They released a picture of Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commander of the 8th Air Force and Chief of Staff Tom Dubose with "wreckage" from the weather balloon.  In the picture Ramey is holding a document.  We now have technology to enlarge documents and read what it says.  They did not know this would be the case at the time of the picture.  It was a telegram from Ramey to General Hoyt Vandenburg at the Pentagon, the AAF Chief of Staff.  The telegram describes what was found.  It states,  "THAT A 'DISK' IS NEXT NEW FIND."  The words "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK" were found near the recovery "OPERATION AT THE 'RANCH' can be seen.  The end of the paragraph states that Vandenburg had the debris and bodies forwarded to Fort Worth.  In 1991 Dubose wrote a sworn affidavit. 

(1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General.

(4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eight Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel.

(5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen.

(6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy.

(7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press.

(8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: T. J. Dubose

Date: 9/16/91

Signature witnessed by:

Linda R. Split

Notary Public, State of Florida

 

When Marcel arrived at Carswell, Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commander of the 8th Air Force took full charge of the case. The debris from Brazel's field was taken into Ramey's office, and photographed. The photographer was James Bond Johnson. Marcel was in one photo with the real debris. Ramey took Marcel into another office, and upon their return to Ramey's office, some new and different material was spread on the floor. Marcel, under orders, stated that this debris was from a weather balloon. After more photos were taken, Ramey sent Marcel back to Roswell, along with a stern warning not to disclose anything he had seen at Carswell. It was then reported that General Ramey recognized the remains as part of a weather balloon. Brigadier General Thomas DuBose, the chief of staff of the Eighth Air Force, after many years of silence would state:

"[It] was a cover story. The whole balloon part of it. That was the part of the story we were told to give to the public and news and that was it."

In an interview in July 1990 Loretta Proctor stated:

"The piece he [Mac Brazel] brought looked like a kind of tan, light brown plastic. It was very lightweight, like balsa wood. It wasn't a large piece, maybe about four inches long, maybe just a little larger than a pencil. We cut on it with a knife and would hold a match on it, and it wouldn't burn. We knew it wasn't wood. It was smooth like plastic, it didn't have a real sharp corners, kind of like a dowel stick. Kind of dark tan. It didn't have any grain, just smooth. I hadn't seen anything like it."

 Loretta Proctor was the mother of Dee Proctor, the 7 year old who was one of the initial people to discover the debris. 

In December 1979 William Brazel Jr., son of Mac Brazel, stated:

"There were several different types of stuff. ...it sure was light in weight. It weighed almost nothing. There was some wooden-like particles I picked up. These were like balsa wood in weight, but a bit darker in color and much harder. You know the thing about wood is that the harder it gets, the heavier it is. Mahogany, for example is quite heavy. This stuff, on the other hand, weighed nothing, yet you couldn't scratch it with your fingernail like ordinary balsa, and you couldn't break it either. It was pliable, but wouldn't break. Of course, all I had was a few splinters. It never occurred to me to try to burn it so I don't know if it would burn or not."  And... "Dad did say one time that there were what he called 'figures' on some of the pieces he found. He often referred to the petroglyphs the ancient Indians drew on rocks around here as "figures" too, and I think that's what he meant to compare them with."
 

Major Jesse Marcel confirmed these statements:

"A lot of it had a lot of little members [beams] with symbols that we had to call them hieroglyphics because I could not interpret them, they could not be read, they were just symbols, something that meant something and they were not all the same. The members that this was painted on -- by the way, those symbols were pink and purple, lavender was actually what it was. And so these little members could not be broken, could not be burned. I even tried to burn that. It would not burn."

In 1992 Charles Moore, a Mogul engineer, stated that the balsa wood used i Mogul also had a metalic tape, purchased in a toy store, which had little flowers printed on it.  This was to explain the symbols in Marcel's and  Brazel's stories.  

Bessie Brazel, daughter of Mac Brazel, stated:

"There were what appeared to be pieces of heavily waxed paper and a sort of aluminum-like foil. Some of these pieces had something like numbers and lettering on them, but there were no words you were able to make out. Some of the metal-foil pieces had a sort of tape stuck to them, and when these were held to the light they showed what looked like pastel flowers or designs. Even though the stuff looked like tape it could not be peeled off or removed at all…. [The writing] looked like numbers mostly ... They were written out like you would write numbers in columns to do an addition problem. But they didn't look like the numbers we use at all. What gave me the idea they were numbers, I guess, was the way they were all ranged out in columns… No, it was definitely not a balloon. We had seen weather balloons quite a lot - both on the ground and in the air. We had even found a couple of Japanese-style balloons that had come down in the area once. We had also picked up a couple of those thin rubber weather balloons with instrument packages. This was nothing like that. I have never seen anything resembling this sort of thing before - or since..."

This testimony does back up Moore's testimony about tape with flowers on it, somewhat.  It also states clearly that it wasn't a weather balloon.  If Moore was a disinformation agent his comments about tape could have been made specificly so that they could be matched with this testimony.  A 1997 documentary by Popular Mechanics focusing on the Mogul Project failed to show this tape and no one has ever come up with any. So this debunks nothing.

Brigadier General Steven Lovekin stated:

"Colonel Hollobard [sp? perhaps Hollogard] brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic -- it was a metallic piece of -- it looked like a yardstick. It had deciphering--it had encryption on it. He did describe them as being symbols of instruction. And that's as far as he would go. But he did infer that the instructions, whatever they might have been, were something that was important enough for the military to keep working on on a constant basis.

"It seemed giant-like when I saw it because it was the first time I had ever seen anything like this before. And all eyes were just peeled on that particular thing. And when he told us what it was, it was frightening, it was eerie there. You could have heard a pin drop in the room when it was first mentioned.

"He said it had been taken from one of the craft that had crashed in New Mexico. It had been taken from a box of materials that the military was working on. They didn't use the word reverse engineering at that time, but it was something similar to the reverse engineering they felt like they needed to work on and that it was going to take years to do this."

And once again Marcel:

"[There were] many bits of metallic foil, that looked like, but was not, aluminum, for no matter how often one crumpled it, it regained its original shape again. Besides that, they were indestructible, even with a sledgehammer."

More witness testimony:

"One of the pieces looked like] something on the order of tinfoil, except that [it] wouldn't tear.... You could wrinkle it and lay it back down and it immediately resumed its original shape... quite pliable, but you couldn't crease or bend it like ordinary metal. Almost like a plastic, but definitely metallic. Dad once said that the Army had once told him it was not anything made by us." "...a little piece of -- it wasn't tinfoil, it wasn't lead foil -- a piece about the size of my finger. ...The only reason I noticed the tinfoil (I'm gonna call it tinfoil), I picked this stuff up and put it in my chaps pocket. Might be two or three days or a week before I took it out and put it in a cigar box. I happened to notice when I put that piece of foil in that box, and the damn thing just started unfolding and just flattened out. Then I got to playing with it. I'd fold it, crease it, lay it down and it'd unfold. It's kinda weird. I couldn't tear it. The color was in between tinfoil and lead foil, about the [thickness] of lead foil."-Mac Brazel

"What Bill [Brazel Jr.] showed us was a piece of what I still think as fabric. It was something like aluminum foil, something like satin, something like well-tanned leather in its toughness, yet was not precisely like any one of those materials. While I do not recall this with certainty, I think the fabric measured about four by eight to ten inches. Its edges, where were smooth, were not exactly parallel, and its shape was roughly trapezoidal. It was about the thickness of a very fine kidskin glove leather and a dull metallic grayish silver, one side slightly darker than the other. I do not remember it having any design or embossing on it. Bill passed it around, and we all felt it. I did a lot of sewing, so the feel made a great impression on me. It felt like no fabric I have touched before or since'. It was very silky or satiny, with the same texture on both sides. Yet when I crumpled it in my hands, the feel was like that you notice when you crumple a leather glove in your hand. When it was released, it sprang back into its original shape, quickly flattening out with no wrinkles. I did this several times, as did the others. I remember some of the others stretching it between their hands and "popping" it, but I do not think anyone tried to cut or tear it."-Sally Strickland Tadolini (neighbor) in a sworn affadavit

"All I saw was a little piece of material. The piece of debris I saw was two-to-three inches square. It was jagged. When you crumpled it up, it then laid back out; and when it did, it kind of crackled, making a sound like cellophane, and it crackled when it was let out. There were no creases.”-Sgt. Robert Smith (member of the First Air Transport Unit, which operated Douglas C-54 Skymaster four-engine cargo planes out of the Roswell AAF) in a sworn affidavit.

Warrant Officer Irving Newton, the weather officer used to identify the weather balloon at Ramey's press conference on July 8, 1947, stated the following in an interview:

Q. But wouldn't the people at Roswell have been able to identify a balloon on their own?
A. They certainly should have. It was a regular Rawin sonde. They must have seen hundreds of them.
Q. Can you describe the fabric? Was it easy to tear?
A. Certainly. You would have to be careful not to tear it. The metal involved was like an extremely thin Alcoa wrap. It was very flimsy.

This interview coupled with the preceding testimonies should show that a switch was made.  The material at the press conference was not the same material as was recovered outside Roswell.  

More testimony on the metals recovered:

"This particular piece of metal was, I would say, about two feet long and perhaps a foot wide. See, that stuff weighs nothing, it's so thin, it isn't any thicker than the tinfoil in a pack of cigarettes. So I tried to bend the stuff, it wouldn't bend. We even tried making a dent in it with a 16-pound sledge hammer, and there was still no dent in it. I didn't have the time to go out there and find out more about it, because I had so much other work to do that I just let it go. It's still a mystery to me as to what the whole thing was. Like I said before, I knew quite a bit about the material used in the air, but it was nothing I had seen before. And as of now, I still don't know what it was.”-Major Marcel

 One man set a piece on the ground and jumped on it, trying to dent or bend it, and failed. "There was a slightly curved piece of metal, real light. It was about six inches by twelve or fourteen inches. Very light. I crouched down and tried to snap it. My boss [Cavitt] laughs and said, 'Smart guy. He's trying to do what we couldn't do.' I asked, 'what in the hell is this stuff made out of?' It didn't feel like plastic and I never saw a piece of metal this thin that you couldn't break."

"This was the strangest material we had ever seen ... there was talk about it not being from Earth. ...A year later I was talking to Joe Wirth, a CIC officer from Andrews Air Force Base in Washington D.C. I asked what they had found out about the stuff from Roswell. He told me that they still didn't know what it was and that their metal experts still couldn't cut it."-M. Sgt. Lewis (Bill) Rickett (Prior to going into counterintelligence, Rickett was a highly qualified aircraft mechanic, inspector, and supervisor. During the war, he was sent to Europe as part of the team that studied German aircraft on site. Thus he was well-qualified in his assessment of the strange thin-metal he said he saw ).

This type of material was beyond our capabilities back then and may still be.  Besides, it's not balsa wood and tinfoil, which is what Mogul was made from.  Why would the Mogul materials even need to be flown to Fort Worth or anywhere else.  Anyone can identify tinfoil and balsa wood.   

 

Symposium on UFOs and Donald Rumsfeld
The Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects was a special session of the House Committee on Science and Astronautics , a committee of the US House of Representatives.  It occurred on July 29,1968.  J. Edward Rouch was the chairman of the symposium.  Dr. J Allen Hynek, Dr. James E. McDonald, Dr. Carl Sagan, Dr. Robert Hall, Dr. James Harder, and Dr. Robert Baker were the experts in physical, psychological, sociological and technical data that testified in front of this committee.  At the time Donald Rumsfeld, President Bush's Secretary of Defense, was a representative from Illinois that sat on the board at the time.  The following is a story about Dr. Hynek who testified in front of that committee that Rumsfeld sat on  in 68:  


Allen said that at some point when Rumsfeld was Secretary of Defense, he went to Washington, and he got an appointment with Rumsfeld. He had been for many many years a consultant for the Air Force on UFOs phenomena. He actually knew Rumsfeld. He said that they chatted about this and that in Rumsfeld’s office and then he turned to him and said, “Don, I have to ask you something. I have been in this for years looking at the UFO phenomena. I feel like at this point in my life I am in a position of ‘need to know’ what you know or what some agency might know that I don’t know. I have a ‘need to know’ I feel."

He said that Rumsfeld stood up and pointed a finger at him and said, "You have no ‘need to know’ and then sat down again. That was the end of it.

Now there are a number of government organizations that have branches that deal with UFOs.  What follows is a partial list:

National Reconnaissance Office(NRO).
Controls and collects information from global spy satellites, monitors UFO traffic entering and leaving Earth's atmosphere, coordinates firing of energy beam weapons from orbiting Star Wars satellites at selected human ground and airborne targets and selectively at extra-terrestrial craft. Loc: Pentagon basement and Dulles Airport area, VA.

National Security Agency
Orchestration of information-control and cover-up activities related to UFO secrecy and surveillance of extra-terrestrial operations.
Loc: Fort Meade, MD.

Central Intelligence Agency
Cooperates with NSA's UFO cover-up operations.
Loc: Langley, VA, and worldwide branches.

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Counter Intelligence Division
Cooperates with the National Reconnaissance Organization in the surveillance of those involved in close encounters with UFOs and extra-terrestrials.

U.S. Navy Office of Naval Intelligence
Has a compartmented unit involved in UFO and USO [Unidentified Submerged Objects] information gathering.

U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations
(AFOSI) has a compartmented unit involved in investigating UFO sightings, extra-terrestrial contact reports, as well as IAC [Identified Alien Craft] surveillance.
Loc: Bolling Air Force Base, MD.

NASA Intelligence
Intelligence on astronaut and reconnaissance satellite encounters with UFOs and ETs, and coordinates the transfer of alien technology to U.S. and allies' aerospace operations.

As Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld would have had access to knowledge from these organizations.  So it's obvious that he knows more than we do from what we know he had access to and the comments he made ot Dr. Hynek.  

In the DVD "AREA 51: THE ALIEN INTERVIEW SPECIAL EDITION" the secret informant "Victor" implicated Rumsfeld in the UFO cover up, stating he had known the truth since the Nixon administration.  

Dr. Richard Boylan wrote a paper on The Secret Shadow Government in the US.  This Secret Shadow Government is a group of the elite.  One of their purposes is purportedly to:

Develop an armed capability to repel any threat to the status quo, (including the uncertain ontological, social, and economic impacts of any revelation of the reality of UFO and extraterrestrial presence) through the development of a Star Wars/BMDO ground and space-based surveillance and SDI weapons network.

Boylan was a psychologist from California who had his license revoked in 1995 for inappropriate contact in a hot tub with female patients.  He claims that his license was revoked due to his releasing information on UFOs.  

In support of a Secret Shadow Government is a comment  that Bill Clinton made to a reporter about a government within the government and how they answer to no one, not even the president.      

In the defense of Rumsfeld did walk out of the symposium in 68 due to other duties on the House floor and questioned the importance of the subject.  On the  other hand "Victor" claimed Rumsfeld was part of the cover up in 73, not 68.

As far as Boylan goes here's what UFO Watchdog has to say about him:

Former California psychologist who had his state psychology license revoked over allegations of improper sexual interaction with female patients in his hot tub (hydro 'therapy'?). Claims to have been the confidant of the late 'government MJ-12 insider' Michael Wolf (another proven fraud). Boylan now conveniently claims to have been gifted with a brand new and, no surprise, anonymous 'inside source.' Also rode the American Indian 'Star People' mythos for several years and claims to know of secret government/UFO testing spots in Nevada desert. Has engaged in countless character assassinations against UFO researchers who disagree with him. Is now planning to hold a summer camp for "star kids" - children who are alleged to have been genetically-altered by aliens (aka: money-in-my-pocket). Parents everywhere should beware...

But, isn't that how you discredit someone?  Make them look bad?  Or does he really make himself look bad.  I would have to think we should ask who runs UFO Watchdog?  The fact that he even got a PhD in the first place shows what type of person he was.  We also need to possibly look at the timing of the revocation in relation to his UFO reports.    

In the board findings when Boylan had his license revoked it talks extensively about his interest in UFOs, a trip he took to a top secret site to observe UFOs and of patients that he thought may have been abductees.  He suggested a support group for one client that he was part of that was for abductees.  As part of the group the client was invited to a UFO conference with Boylan.  At a social gathering at Boylan's house a group hot tubbed nude and the client was part of the group.  In Vegas, at the conference, the client shared a room with Boylan.  During a massage Boylan told the client he wasn't interested in a sexual relationship and then went to sleep.  Another client he traded psychoanalysis for massage.  On many occasions he put himself into situations where one or both would be naked, massage, hot tub, meditation, inviting to hot springs. Boylan never attempted sexual contact. Another client he also believed may have been a abductee.  So his UFO beliefs were very much part of the process that got his license taken away.